{"id":80079,"date":"2019-07-25T14:00:19","date_gmt":"2019-07-25T12:00:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/all4camper.com\/\/?p=80079"},"modified":"2021-04-12T06:01:58","modified_gmt":"2021-04-12T04:01:58","slug":"kocovni-irove-objizdi-ceske-kempy-a-zanechavaji-po-sobe-neporadek-a-nespokojene-kempare","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/all4camper.com\/cs\/kocovni-irove-objizdi-ceske-kempy-a-zanechavaji-po-sobe-neporadek-a-nespokojene-kempare\/","title":{"rendered":"Varov\u00e1n\u00ed – „ko\u010dovn\u00ed“ Irov\u00e9 obj\u00ed\u017ed\u00ed \u010desk\u00e9 kempy a zanech\u00e1vaj\u00ed po sob\u011b nepo\u0159\u00e1dek a nespokojen\u00e9 kempa\u0159e"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

Dne\u0161n\u00ed p\u0159\u00edsp\u011bvek bude tak trochu jin\u00fd. Nen\u00ed o cestov\u00e1n\u00ed, nen\u00ed o tipech „kde kempovat a co vid\u011bt“ a nen\u00ed ani o produktech spojen\u00fdch s kempov\u00e1n\u00edm a karavaningem. Je prost\u011b o lidech, \u010di sp\u00ed\u0161e o „ko\u010dovn\u00fdch karavanistech“ a re\u00e1ln\u00fdch zku\u0161enostech jak majitel\u016f kemp\u016f, tak n\u00e1s, kempa\u0159\u016f kempuj\u00edc\u00edch v kempech.<\/h4>\n\n\n\n

Hodn\u011b jsem p\u0159em\u00fd\u0161lela, jak tento \u010dl\u00e1nek uchopit, proto\u017ee t\u00e9ma je to opravdu slo\u017eit\u00e9, mo\u017en\u00e1 by se dalo p\u0159esn\u011bji napsat „t\u0159askav\u00e9“ a m\u016f\u017ee vyvolat vlnu emoc\u00ed (vysv\u011btlen\u00ed toho najdete na konci \u010dl\u00e1nku). Jak\u00fdchkoliv. Na druhou stranu, je o mn\u011b zn\u00e1mo, \u017ee pokud se n\u011bco dozv\u00edm, tak informuji, p\u0159\u00edpadn\u011b varuji atp. Proto jsem se rozhodla tento p\u0159\u00edsp\u011bvek nakonec napsat, proto\u017ee jsem p\u0159esv\u011bd\u010dena, \u017ee tato informace by se m\u011bla k majitel\u016fm kemp\u016f dostat. <\/strong>Jak s t\u00edm pak nalo\u017e\u00ed – je u\u017e na nich. Nicm\u00e9n\u011b n\u00ed\u017ee uveden\u00e9 informace a citace jsou fakta.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

O co tedy jde<\/h4>\n\n\n\n

V\u010dera ve\u010der jsem na facebooku Resortu Radslavice (v\u00edce o tomto resortu, kter\u00fd m\u00e1m moc r\u00e1da, si m\u016f\u017eete p\u0159e\u010d\u00edst<\/strong> ZDE<\/strong><\/a>) zaznamenala „povzdych“ nad kempa\u0159i „kempuj\u00edc\u00edmi“ v t\u011bchto dnech v Radslavic\u00edch.<\/strong> A proto\u017ee dlouhodob\u011b sleduji co se kde v oblasi kempov\u00e1n\u00ed a karavaningu d\u011bje, ihned jsem si vzpomn\u011bla, \u017ee je to skoro jako „p\u0159es kop\u00edr\u00e1k“, co hl\u00e1silo n\u011bkolik kemp\u016f minul\u00fd rok.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Pra\u010dka na fotce nen\u00ed resortu, v\u00edce takov\u00fdch v\u011bc\u00ed vyndali a rozprost\u0159eli po Radslavic\u00edch tito n\u00e1v\u0161t\u011bvn\u00edci<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Hl\u00e1\u0161en\u00ed z Radslavic<\/h4>\n\n\n\n

Radslavice hl\u00e1sily, \u017ee sice maj\u00ed plno, bohu\u017eel v\u0161ak tak\u00e9 nejen\u017ee maj\u00ed \u010d\u00e1ste\u010dn\u011b poni\u010den\u00e9 vybaven\u00ed, ale tito „karavanist\u00e9“ ani nezaplatili a museli je urgovat, nebo\u0165 m\u00edsto zaplacen\u00ed na br\u00e1n\u011b si vjezdovou kartu p\u0159ed\u00e1vali. Aktu\u00e1ln\u011b zaplaceno maj\u00ed, nicm\u00e9n\u011b bez urgence a „tvrd\u0161\u00edho“ n\u00e1stupu pana majitele by se tak nestalo. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nav\u00edc se v resortu za\u010daly objevovat r\u016fzn\u00e9 p\u0159edm\u011bty (pra\u010dky atp.), kter\u00e9 tam nepat\u0159\u00ed a jsou majetkem t\u011bchto „karavanist\u016f“. A aby toho nebylo m\u00e1lo, tak je\u0161t\u011b d\u011blaj\u00ed opravdu velk\u00fd hluk a ru\u0161\u00ed sv\u00fdm chov\u00e1n\u00ed ostatn\u00ed ubytovan\u00e9 … a to tak, \u017ee jedin\u00e9 mo\u017en\u00e9 \u0159e\u0161en\u00ed bylo, \u017ee se tam majitel\u00e9 museli do\u010dasn\u011b ubytovat a hl\u00eddat chov\u00e1n\u00ed t\u011bchto n\u00e1v\u0161t\u011bvn\u00edk\u016f. <\/strong>Od t\u00e9 doby je klid a jak \u0159\u00edk\u00e1 V\u011brka, spolumajitelka resortu, najednou jsou v deset ve\u010der v karavanech zabydlen\u00ed a je klid. Jakmile v\u0161ak odjedeme, a to i p\u0159es den, okam\u017eit\u011b vylezou a za\u010dnou d\u011blat nepo\u0159\u00e1dek… tedy p\u0159esn\u011bji \u0159e\u010deno d\u011bti, matky si jich nev\u0161\u00edmaj\u00ed a otcov\u00e9 jsou p\u0159es den pry\u010d a prod\u00e1vaj\u00ed jak\u00e9si zbo\u017e\u00ed \u010di se „toulaj\u00ed“ po okol\u00ed …<\/p>\n\n\n\n

A te\u010f u\u017e jen citace, zku\u0161enosti a post\u0159ehy<\/h4>\n\n\n\n

Samoz\u0159ejm\u011b mi to nedalo a ihned jsem do jedn\u00e9 karavanistick\u00e9 skupiny na facebooku vlo\u017eila informaci o tom, co se v Radslavic\u00edch aktu\u00e1ln\u011b d\u011bje. Reakce byly okam\u017eit\u00e9 a potvrdily to, \u017ee m\u011b pam\u011b\u0165 neklame a opravdu to nen\u00ed poprv\u00e9. Z\u00e1rove\u0148 z reakc\u00ed vyplynuly doup\u0159esn\u011bn\u00ed \u010di dal\u0161\u00ed informace kde se kdo s nimi setkal a jak to vypadalo. Tak\u017ee jdeme na to:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Libor: <\/strong>“ Ano jsou to ****, kter\u00fd si mysl\u00ed \u017ee mohou v\u0161e. P\u0159ed p\u00e1r lety jsem je za\u017eil tak\u00e9,ale ne asi tyto. Z kempu je pak majitel za dva dny vyhodil pro jejich arogantn\u00ed chov\u00e1n\u00ed (hudba hlasit\u00e1, \u0159van\u00ed do r\u00e1na, p\u0159ivlastn\u011bn\u00ed pitn\u00e9 vody na pran\u00ed,atd). Po domluv\u011b obsluhy chvilku byli ok,ale ne moc dlouho. Majitel p\u0159ijel a za doprovodu policie museli odjet.“<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Josef:<\/strong> “ Jsou to gypsy travellers ze Severn\u00edho Irska. Nen\u00ed pot\u0159eba ps\u00e1t, kde v\u0161ude byli a co kde ud\u011blali. Ono toti\u017e V\u0160UDE kam p\u0159ijedou, nad\u011blaj\u00ed probl\u00e9my. Podot\u00fdk\u00e1m, d\u011blaj\u00ed probl\u00e9my po cel\u00e9 Evrop\u011b!!!! Cca p\u0159ed m\u011bs\u00edcem jich bylo pln\u00fd severn\u00ed Nizozemsko. „<\/em> … na m\u016fj dotaz, zda m\u00e1 dal\u0161\u00ed informace, je\u0161t\u011b doplnil „osobn\u00ed zku\u0161enosti m\u00e1m pouze od n\u00e1s z UK. Tady jsou je\u0161te drzej\u0161\u00ed, a to t\u00edm, \u017ee nejezd\u00ed do kemp\u016f, ale rozbalej to kdekoliv. M\u011bsta, industri\u00e1ln\u00ed z\u00f3ny, slep\u00fd ulice. V\u011bt\u0161inou po t\u00fddnu jedou d\u00e1l, p\u00e1\u010d je „vylifrujou“ \u00fa\u0159ady. V\u0161e co tu bylo ji\u017e naps\u00e1no sed\u00ed …“<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Dagmar zase p\u0159ed\u00e1v\u00e1 tento osobn\u00ed poznatek:<\/strong> “ Aj na SK boli kemp Podlesok – stra\u0161n\u00fd nepo\u0159\u00e1dek – minul\u00fd rok „<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

… a jakou zku\u0161enost m\u00e1 „Z\u00e1voj“?<\/strong> „ vloni v Melku. 3 karavany jako stodoly. Krav\u00e1l, voda tekla nep\u0159etr\u017eit\u011b, v\u0161ude lavory se \u0161pinav\u00fdm pr\u00e1dlem.. . „<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

A Petr ihned jedn\u00edm dechem dod\u00e1v\u00e1 <\/strong>„2018 Ro\u017enov pod Radho\u0161t\u011bm asi 10 karavan\u016f, v\u0161e luxusni auta i karavany. Hlu\u010dn\u00e1 nevychovan\u00e1 *** a je\u0161t\u011b k tomu neplat\u00ed za ubytov\u00e1n\u00ed. 2017 Lipno, 8 karavanu, rychl\u00fd p\u0159\u00edjezd, 4 dny a pak jak p\u0159ijeli tak se rychle ztratili a bez placen\u00ed. Jsou to ko\u010dovn\u00ed karavanist\u00e9 a sami sebe ale ozna\u010duj\u00ed za n\u00e1rod \u201eThe Pavee\u201c.. Na slovensku to skon\u010dilo policejnim z\u00e1sahem. „<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Dle Ernesta si s t\u00edm um\u011bli poradit v It\u00e1lii<\/strong> „nechapem, na\u010do to pu\u0161taju do kempov. Za\u017eil som v Italii. Majitel nezdvyhol rampu do kempu a volal policiu a museli ist pre\u010d a basta. „<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Ver\u010da nakonec je\u0161t\u011b dopl\u0148uje sv\u016fj n\u00e1zor a zku\u0161enost:<\/strong> “ Tak\u017ee d\u00e1my a p\u00e1nov\u00e9…. Tihle ti „povedeni Irov\u00e9“ jsou gypsy!!! Maj\u00ed irsk\u00e9 zna\u010dky, drah\u00e9 caravany i auta a putuj\u00ed Evropou. V\u00edm to, proto\u017ee jsme s nimi m\u011bli tady v UK co do\u010din\u011bn\u00ed, a to ne jednou!!! Nepou\u0161t\u011bt nikde, volat policii, akor\u00e1t tady do kempu nejezd\u00ed, us\u00eddli se v\u00e1m na soukrom\u00e9m!! pozemku a neud\u011bl\u00e1 s nimi nic ani policie! Bu\u010fte opatrn\u00ed…. Nejsou moc p\u0159\u00e1tel\u0161t\u00ed a nejsou to Irov\u00e9 jako Irov\u00e9…. Jsou to ko\u010dovn\u00edci, co d\u011blaj\u00ed nepo\u0159\u00e1dek, nerespektuj\u00ed atd….. Hodn\u011b \u0161t\u011bst\u00ed v\u0161em a dr\u017e\u00edm p\u011bsti, a\u0165 to dob\u0159e dob\u0159e dopadne“<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Jejich \u010dinnost (trochu jinak) zaznamenal a vydal upozorn\u011bn\u00ed i Karel Abraham, zn\u00e1m\u00fd moto GP jezdec na sv\u00e9m facebooku tady<\/a>!<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Je\u0161t\u011b dopl\u0148uji informaci, \u017ee cestuj\u00ed v dra\u017e\u0161\u00edch karavanech (co\u017e u\u017e ale zazn\u011blo z reakc\u00ed karavanist\u016f) a v\u017edy (tedy skoro v\u017edy) dop\u0159edu do kemp\u016f volaj\u00ed a ptaj\u00ed se, zda maj\u00ed volno pro Britsk\u00e9! karavanisty … jakou odpov\u011b\u010f, b\u00fdt majitelem kempu zvolit, nech\u00e1v\u00e1m na va\u0161\u00ed fantazii, ale vzhledem k tomu, \u017ee kempy jsou v \u010cR o sezon\u011b beznad\u011bjn\u011b pln\u00e9, tak by mi bylo l\u00edto, \u017ee je mus\u00edm odm\u00edtnout … p\u0159eci jen karavanist\u00e9 z Brit\u00e1nie, to nen\u00ed tak \u010dast\u00e9 … ale je sez\u00f3na …<\/p>\n\n\n\n

A kdo jsou tedy oni ko\u010dovn\u00edci? Wikipedie o nich \u0159\u00edk\u00e1 toto <\/strong>wikipedia.org<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Jsou a nebo to nejsou oni? Kauza, kter\u00e1 v ned\u00e1vn\u00fdch dnech zah\u00fdbala emocemi v N\u011bmecku<\/h4>\n\n\n\n

N\u00e1zor si ud\u011blejte sami. A zaj\u00edt to m\u016f\u017ee docela daleko. N\u011bmeck\u00fdmi m\u00e9dii v posledn\u00edch dnech h\u00fdbe zpr\u00e1va o p\u0159\u00edpadu kempu v bavorsk\u00e9m Eging am see.<\/strong> Na dotaz o rezervaci m\u00edsta v kempu toti\u017e ode\u0161la odpov\u011b\u010f spolu s dodatkem, \u017ee je nutn\u00e9 zohlednit fakt, \u017ee nebudou ubytov\u00e1ni \u017e\u00e1dn\u00ed obchodn\u00ed cestuj\u00edc\u00ed, komedianti (voln\u011b p\u0159elo\u017eeno), ani Sintov\u00e9 a Romov\u00e9. Mail se pak, jak u\u017e to tak b\u00fdv\u00e1, za\u010dal \u0161\u00ed\u0159it po soci\u00e1ln\u00edch s\u00edt\u00edch s t\u00edm, \u017ee se jedn\u00e1 o diskriminaci. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

K cel\u00e9 situaci se pak vyj\u00e1d\u0159il majitel kempu s koment\u00e1\u0159em, \u017ee to bylo \u0161patn\u011b formulov\u00e1no. Omluvil se z\u00e1stupc\u016fm Rom\u016f i Sint\u016f a vydal ofici\u00e1ln\u00ed prohl\u00e1\u0161en\u00ed i na str\u00e1nk\u00e1ch kempu. Doplnil, \u017ee rozhodn\u011b necht\u011bl nikoho diskriminovat, \u017ee slu\u0161n\u00ed lid\u00e9 jsou u n\u011bj v\u017edy v\u00edt\u00e1ni. Nicm\u00e9n\u011b, \u017ee jeho kemp je ur\u010den hlavn\u011b a zejm\u00e9na pro relaxaci a velk\u00e9 mno\u017estv\u00ed extr\u00e9mn\u011b negativn\u00edch zku\u0161enost\u00ed z minulosti vedlo k tomuto, pon\u011bkud ne\u0161\u0165astn\u011b napsan\u00e9mu emailu. Jednalo se tak\u0159ka v\u017edy o v\u011bt\u0161\u00ed skupiny s n\u011bkolika vozidly, kter\u00e9 obsazuj\u00ed velk\u00e9 plochy a cht\u011bj\u00ed z\u016fstat del\u0161\u00ed dobu. Tito \u201ehost\u00e9\u201c si pak sami r\u00e1di diktuj\u00ed pravdila. Nez\u0159\u00eddka se stalo, \u017ee cht\u011bli v prostor\u00e1ch kempu i obchodovat s r\u016fzn\u00fdmi v\u011bcmi. Ob\u010das se jich i ostatn\u00ed host\u00e9 b\u00e1li.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

No a z toho plyne ot\u00e1zka, jak se tedy br\u00e1nit a rozpoznat, co m\u016f\u017eete o\u010dek\u00e1vat?<\/strong> Odpov\u011b\u010f ji\u017e nech\u00e1v\u00e1m na v\u00e1s!<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Ka\u017edop\u00e1dn\u011b, kdy\u017e u\u017e o tom p\u00ed\u0161e i Der Spiegel“ … spiegel.de<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

AKTUALIZACE:<\/h3>\n\n\n\n

Po vyd\u00e1n\u00ed tohoto \u010dl\u00e1nku se mi ozval majitel kempu Orlice v Kostelci na Orlic\u00ed a samoz\u0159ejm\u011b i dal\u0161\u00ed karavanist\u00e9. Vesm\u011bs jsou informace stejn\u00e9 – hluk, probl\u00e9my s platbou, ne\u0161\u0165astn\u00ed host\u00e9 v kempu atp. Ostatn\u011b kop\u00edruji reakce majitel\u016f, co mi d\u00e1vali info.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Kemp Orlice, 21.7. <\/strong> Moment\u00e1ln\u011b jsou v kempu Orlice v Kostelci nad Orlic\u00ed. Nahrnuli se sem bez jak\u00e9hokoliv ohl\u00e1\u0161en\u00ed. Z party asi 8 karavan\u016f n\u00e1m zat\u00edm zaplatili jen dva a my si tu te\u010f s nimi nev\u00edme rady. Hluk nepo\u0159\u00e1dek no hr\u016fza… je mi lito ostatn\u00edch host\u016f… zat\u00edm si nikdo nest\u011b\u017eoval, ale v\u011b\u0159\u00edm ze je to pro ostatn\u00ed velmi nep\u0159\u00edjemn\u00e9… <\/em>, dal\u0161\u00ed informace z tohoto kempu 25.7.2019:<\/strong> Tak n\u00e1s z\u00edtra tato skupina opou\u0161t\u00ed, kam se chystaj\u00ed to nev\u00edm, ale nikomu nedoporucuji je vpou\u0161t\u011bt do kempu. Za cel\u00fd t\u00fdden tu zanechaly neskute\u010dn\u00fd objem odpadk\u016f a to ani nev\u00edme co n\u00e1s \u010dek\u00e1 z\u00edtra a\u017e odjedou. V\u011bcn\u00e9 dohady o tom kdo zaplatil za auta karavany a osoby. \u010c\u00edsla z aut karavanu si p\u0159ehazuji jak se jim zl\u00edb\u00ed. Ka\u017ed\u00fd den n\u011bkam jezd\u00ed, tak\u017ee je pom\u011brn\u011b t\u011b\u017ek\u00e9 si v\u0161e pohl\u00eddat. Na vodu jsou napichnuti 24\/7 to sam\u00e9 elekt\u0159ina. Odb\u011br bude neskute\u010dn\u00fd. Na z\u00edt\u0159ek se tu v\u0161ichni t\u011b\u0161\u00edme, v\u010detn\u011b host\u016f, kte\u0159\u00ed tu jsou a\u017e do ned\u011ble. <\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

Karavanista Pavel:<\/strong> <\/strong>Ka\u017ed\u00fd rok je vid\u00edm na Slovensku na Senci. Je to d\u011bs.
Policie nest\u00edh\u00e1 \u0159e\u0161it p\u0159\u00edpady. Desetilet\u00ed chod\u00ed s repr\u00e1ky na koleckach jak s kufry, chod\u00ed po kempu do rana do \u010dty\u0159 a policie nic nezm\u016f\u017ee, kdy\u017e jich tam p\u0159ijede tis\u00edc najednou. A o dospelich ani nemluvit. <\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

Karavanista Tom\u00e1\u0161:<\/strong> My je zazili vloni v Lipotu a katastrofa, detem brali mj. Hracky. Resp.kradli. Jedna „dama“ jezdila celej den po kempu sem a tam autem. Fakt kolem nas jela snad 50x za den. Chov\u00e1n\u00ed celkove neuv\u011b\u0159itelny. A pritom kazdej auto za 2.5 mega a karavan za mega. Proste luza luza luza. Fakt \u0161\u00edlen\u00fd, ted nez nekam v tehle oblasti kde se pohybuj\u00ed nez vlezu tak kontroluju jestli tam nejsou… <\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

Reakc\u00ed bylo samoz\u0159ejm\u011b v\u00edce, v\u0161echny je sem kop\u00edrovat nebudu. Te\u010f je d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e9 toto: MAJITEL\u00c9, PROS\u00cdM, DEJTE SI NA N\u011a POZOR!!!!!<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n

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Dne\u0161n\u00ed p\u0159\u00edsp\u011bvek bude tak trochu jin\u00fd. Nen\u00ed o cestov\u00e1n\u00ed, nen\u00ed o tipech „kde kempovat a co vid\u011bt“ a nen\u00ed ani o produktech spojen\u00fdch s kempov\u00e1n\u00edm a karavaningem. Je prost\u011b o lidech, \u010di sp\u00ed\u0161e o „ko\u010dovn\u00fdch karavanistech“ a re\u00e1ln\u00fdch zku\u0161enostech jak majitel\u016f kemp\u016f, tak n\u00e1s, kempa\u0159\u016f kempuj\u00edc\u00edch v kempech. 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